that answer wouldn't work in court. >> it is not responsive. objection, your honor. tell the witness to answer the question. >> right. >> did you know that flynn lied to the fbi? up to now pence's defense has been i don't know nothing about nothing. he didn't know about the wikileaks. he didn't know about trump jr.'s meeting with the russian lawyer. he didn't know about flynn's discussions about the sanctions. again, that's starting to look a little thin especially now that mueller is talking to flynn. so flynn apparently has told mueller stuff that makes him want to have a sitdown with the vice president. >> where does this tell you this is going? just -- with respect to the conversation we were just having about the house intel committee to wrap it up. on the mueller side, this got interesting with the flynn deal. >> indeed. the hill investigations are political and more transparent. we don't know how long mueller is going to continue the investigation. we know he's got two people under indictment. at least another year.