the turn over at the white house if those sources still are employed at the white house, or not, that would be interesting to know. and certainly the white house is saying it didn't happen. so it's left to the viewer to assess does it sound like the president to you, is it an issue that matters to you, do you trust that reporting. those kinds of things are really where people consuming this news today have to kind of factor it all in. white house it saying it didn't happen. the times is saying it did a lot of reporting to back up that story. david. >> let me ask you, we didn't get an end of the year news conference from the president. he did field a few questions from the reporters and laid out what some of his pry yortioriti for the new year. where can we expect the new year to go with immigration? >> reporter: one of the big news has to do with what's known as daca, deferred action on alien