of in our relationship with nato it's a -- it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. it is dangerous if we, as -- as stephen says, if we get purely transactional about these things. >> well, steve is one of the smartest voices in foreign policy i listen to. this is one of the low points of u.s. diplomacy. there is literally nothing we do we don't thing benefits the american people. we give sizable support to egypt and be saudi arabia in various forms. the gulf coast states. eastern europe. and in every case we hope it enhances u.s. national interests as part of alliance activities. so this sort of, you know, adolescent threats both from the white house and from the ambassador are disruptive to our future well-being. >> ultimately, american allies voted against it, that's the form of what the united nations is for.