>> it could be some of us. he likes to paint things in the stark, dire tones. where it is an us versus them. here you are seeing people around him raise the issue to sort of trigger alarm bells on the right to sort of prove the stir-up and say, hey, this is going too far. let's shut it down. talk about bob mueller, i want to talk about this with you on the other side. >> he's certainly not going to fire mueller. he's too smart to do that and doesn't need another distraction on top of that distraction. >> nick, is this an instance where you agree with anthony scaramucci here. >> i think it's too if he fires mueller it will be a political firestorm. it will be like the saturday night massacre and a major public outcry. but it doesn't mean trump won't do it. there's no guarantee that he will not try to reach into the department of justice and force