what he's going to do here. if he's ordered to fire mueller and if he doesn't quit before he carries out that order, you're going have tease cases and investigations and it will be up to him to decide whether wr they go. or to new york to southern district or eastern district of new york, whether they get sent to the criminal decision of the department of justice but they're not going to go away just because bob mueller's not at the helm. >> when you said persuaded. knowing rosensteen like we do, having served as a u.s. attorney, rod is someone who is unquestionably has the character, the independence to serve. he served in two different administrations and so again i'm not sure -- i am sure that he cannot be persuaded. i think he would step down before being persuaded to direct an investigation one way or another. >> on that point were you at all