what clients have to do in this situation. go to what we call a proffer meeting, tell the u.s. attorneys everything they know. the u.s. attorneys usually know more than they let on because they want to know if this person is lying. if they are dazzled with the information that flynn gives them, then they often the defendant a cooperation agreement. and it's a very, very difficult agreement to satisfy because he has to impress them between now and his sentences. >> and more charges they could potentially bring to him. how does he have to impress them? are we talking bigger fish? >> that's the complaint we have about cooperating witness agreements. think about this. any of us in the same position, if the government approached you and said we might charge your son. you're looking at possibly five years in prison. although flynn wouldn't get that, give us something that impresses us.