utilities. like old school telephone companies that are heavily regulated. so democrats i think wanted to go further. the thing that the fcc chairman is showing today is to shift that to another agency. could take some action if companies tried to interfere or tried to meddle, but certainly the u.s. government won't have some of the same tools as it did under obama. >> do people like you have really good examples of what the worst case scenario could be if the fcc go ahead with this and some other agency doesn't actually enforce it and what we think of goes away. >> yeah. we have a lot of hypotheticals. there haven't been many recent examples. one of the big fears is the idea on fast lanes that companies like comcast or verizon could strike partnerships with those that make content.