revenue and then it's forced to cut back on programs and we just continuously starve the government and down size it. >> when you see paul ryan or others on the floor with a poster next to them saying this is how much of a tax cut you're going to get if you're in the middle class. you need to think holistically about this. your life is not just about our federal tax obligation. it's a whole lot of other things that you're saying are going to have to get cut, by definition. the lower youor the income ladder if you have any reliance on federal government programs, this is going to hit you some other way. >> yeah, i wish there was some way you could put together a distribution table that included the spending cuts, as well as the tax cuts because that would definitely show the people at the lower end are going to be hurt very, very badly by this combined effect. >> there's something else you write. the democrats' only hope is to defeat the tax cut in its entirety and not be seduced by