situation that in my opinion didn't have a winning scenario. not with the individual that wanted to do me damage. >> holbrook, a former software engineer, is married with twin sons. he spent two years at santa rita waiting for his trial to get under way. >> two years is a long time to wait to see if you're really guilty of a crime. you know what i mean? so it kind of grates on you after awhile. an individual like myself stands out pretty plainly. i don't have a swagger like an inmate or a convict. i think i'm well spoken. i'm pretty quiet. i don't put myself out there in people's faces typically. i don't cause problems. >> holbrook is -- he's a different breed compared to most of the other guys in here. >> he looks out of place but he's adapted and he's kind of got to know how everything works and what's going on, you know, with the politics in the pod and everything.