9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc and they talk about that topic and much more. let's bring in georgetown university. christen is a former congressional chief of staff. and has been leading the charge for congress to confront its sexual harassment problem. let's start with this first, what do you know of conversations what has been said by senator gillibrand in the past and why do you think she may have decided to now speak out in such force? >> well, i mean i think it's obvious that we've reached a point in this country where a lot of us are grappling with behaviors that might have been excused or defended in the past, and we have reached a point where i think we are acknowledging that there has to be a more stereo tolerance policy going forward, at least that's where i hope that we get in the world of politics and capitol hill. so i think it's only natural for ta lot of people to be kind of rethinking some of these issues and some of these behaviors