censure him, because it wasn't in the rule book. there wasn't such a thing. but maybe i think they needed something like that. this is something that occurred one incident, so far. before he was a senator, when he was on a pretty good important mission for the country, which was this uso tour. what's the sanction here? i mean, what are we talking about? in football, you get fined. you get suspended, or in major sports. i'm trying to think, is there any other sort of field of play, if you will, where you pay a price and everybody knows it and you take the shame for having paid that price, but that's the end of it? or you're just whacked. your career's over. what's the story here? we're in strange territory here, i think. your thoughts? >> we are, we definitely are. and i think it remains to be seen. i mean, we've seen the congress censure people for certain actions or another which really doesn't mean much more than a vote taken to censure them. and we've seen other cases such as -- >> well, gary studs, do you remember him? from massachusetts. and he refused to look at the house when they censured him. i mean, he wouldn't even accept it, the shame that came with his