somebody said happened. i have to make some decisions based off of what's actually happened. i am going to guide them, regardless. i'm going to love on them, regardless. but i'm not going to send some -- i'm not going to condemn them, without knowing the truth. jesus said like this. you without sin cast the first stone. you sin, go sin no more. that's what jesus said. so the fact that -- i can't sit up here and say, you know, moore did it or those women are lying. that's not what i'm saying. what i'm saying is, we need to examine, just like we examine roy's -- >> that's what we're doing. let's do some examining -- sir, yeah, let's do some examining. laura, take a listen to tina johnson. this is one of the accusers about what she says happened to her. >> my mother and me went to his office for me to sign custody papers of my son over to her. and we went in, as soon as we hit the door, he was real flirtatio flirtatious, coming on, the