that a special counsel was appointed to investigate the leak of valerie plame's name. the premise there was we couldn't investigate ourselves that it happened on our watch. in this case, there's a special counsel looking into donald trump's ties to washington because he fired the head of the fbi who was running that investigation. when they throw this out there, it sounds like jim jordan doesn't even understand the law enforcement case or the legal case to even be asking for a special counsel to look into hillary clinton. >> sure. well, the most obvious situation is where there's a conflict at senior leadership of the justice department between what's being investigated and their role as somebody who would oversee the investigation. i don't necessarily see that in the uranium one case but let's also remember that that letter that was sent to the justice department saying we're going to look at the possibility of a special counsel was sent the day before jeff sessions was due to