one guy to perform in this job as special counsel, considering all the weight upon him now, robert mueller is about the best american you're going to find? >> oh, he is absolutely the guy for this job. i mean, as you know, brian, bob mueller is a true patriot from being a marine in vietnam, to a seasoned united states attorney, then he was the second longest sitting director in history of the fbi besides j. edgar hoover. i still remember right after 9/11 i was a supervisor at headquarters watching bob mueller come in and take charge of that room right after one of the most catastrophic events in the history of this country. i've never seen the man flinch. >> yeah. people in law enforcement and law tend to approach him with something approaching awe, which is rare these days. to your theory of the soft underbelly and russian ways of operating, we hear this a lot, too. would that match these descriptions you're reading of someone like papadopoulos as a way to get in?