this bears out, it will put enormous pressure on him to cut a deal and to say what he knows about, you know, whether donald trump, for example, was coordinating and was aware of his meetings with the russian ambassador kislyak. so this is a hugely significant development in the russia investigation. >> could this cross into treason? >> treason has a very specific legal definition and i haven't heard that raised at all in this forum. but it certainly looks to a lot of legal analysts like quid pro quo bribery. again, these are only allegations being investigated, but if that's the case, this looks like an allegation of selling one's office, katy. >> really quickly, ken. why do they think flynn jr. might have been involved in this meeting. >> the short answer to that is because some very reliable sources have told us that's the case. he's been his father's right hand man, business manager, traveled with him to russia. seems to be heavily involved in