so i think he is in a really highly activated and aroused state. >> the top white house lawyers say mueller will ultimately be good for trump because he won't find anything that directly implicates trump. >> i may be the only person who says this. but i have believed since the day mueller was appointed to the job, that he will be the end of the trump presidency and he will find indictable offenses. i don't know if they will be about russia. who knows? trump may or may not be able to insulate himself. but i know that he's had a career that spanned more than four decades. and during those four decades, there's an awful lot of behaviors and choices and actions that he's taken that are potentially criminal. >> tony schwartz, the co-author of the art of the deal. very interesting to get your take over this. coming up, why democrats are winning on health care. and why it might help them next year. stay with us.