success with trump. so conservatives and republicans shouldn't read into this what democrats are reading? they're saying, stay on message. stick to it. stick close to trump cultural and political policies? and that actually nationwide looks like success. that's a way of sort of saying, take this loss and treat it like a win? >> and it's tough to interpret it, if you're a republican trying to draw lessons from this. looking at virginia and not from virginia, well, your part of the country, which part of virginia is it like? if you're from the south, from sort of a rural area, you're thinking that this part of virginia it is part of virginia. ed gillespie the win by 50 points. trump wins by 50 points. in the suburbs, thinking of this part. >> what does it come down to? a battle of cities in america? >> story for congress, democrats have a target of 24. make up 24 house seats to get the majority. you can get 23 seats, 23 seats, currently held by republicans, that are in districts that hillary clinton won. >> right. >> that's similar to the terrain