what are you going to do about it? >> mr. senator, there's no doubt that securing data is the core a value of our company. and i would also apologize deeply to the american public for the breach that we had. we let the public down. >> did he say he was going to donate his giant exit package? i didn't hear that when he said his apology. >> other people got exit packages from equifax as well. joining us now is senior editor for policy and politics at recode. tony, we didn't see marissa mayma maier there. she had to get subpoenaed. >> she definitely refused. her representatives said she stepped away from the company. yahoo was purchased by verizon. so they felt she wasn't the right one to testify. but the senate commerce committee was not having that. for a change, democrats and republicans found a reason to