ralph northam has not been nearly that aggressive in calling trump out. >> right. >> if you talk to democrats, that's just not his style. he wants to run as a pragmatist. but that runs the risk of failing to excite a lot of the base. >> that are looking to feed off of that about trump for example. >> michael, have you been involved in trying to suppress the minority vote for northam? >> absolutely not, i encourage everyone to vote. what i've been involved with is raising the question about how the northam campaign and several of the unions sort of forgot to put the black candidate for lieutenant governor on their flyers in some parts of the state while they put his face on other parts of the state. that's the kind of political crap that happens a lot. and myself and j.c. watts want to call it out. in terms of suppressing the vote, nope, not at all. everybody needs to get up, go