carry of firearms have to say look, maybe this guy, given his history and the governor saying he shouldn't have been given a texas carry permit, do we have to look at tightening up laws and restrictions or at least enforcing them better? >> well, yeah, if this guy -- this guy sounds to me like shouldn't have had this weapon anyway, there are already lawings in place. i guess my argument is adding new gun laws wouldn't have changed the situation. this guy was willing to violate potentially gun laws that are already in place. he also violated the law against murdering people. so adding a new gun law for him that may affect law abiding citizens is my biggest concern because i want law abiding citizens to be in a position where they can stop something like this, not be in a position where they have no recourse. >> if the governor did, as he told us on nbc, confirm, as you have, that this shooter was denied a permit, what is the breakdown in which he's able to go and buy a gun? >> you know, i don't know. there was apparently a gun store