investments. it does show the russian state had a serious interest in these social media companies as far back as 2009 in the case of facebook and 2011 in the case of twitter. >> we didn't know this before today? >> no, we didn't know this before today. it's important to understand we're looking at this through the prism of the 2016 election. there's evidence going back as far as 2011, the year they made the investment, that the kremlin was making use of twitter to crack down on protests in mos w moscow. so i think it's important we should be aware the manipulation of those networks is not a phenomenon that began a year ago, but as far back as 2011. >> millner sold his stakes in these companies and made money doing it. >> yes. >> any reason to believe the russians got out of the business? >> vtb cashed out of its twitter