here, volunteer firemen, first responders. you know, we're all tight. very sweet, very quiet community and for, it's unfathomable. it's unconscionable. it's -- you would never think it would happen here. >> and i'm sure, you know, you have watched some of this stuff take place around the country on your television and in the news and never thought that this would happen in your community, in your town. >> absolutely not. that's exactly right. i mean, this is something that you would hear taking place of course like in atlanta or birmingham or, you know, even austin or dallas. you know? something like that taking place there. and not here. not in this small little community where everybody pretty much knows everybody. >> is there any security at these -- at these small churches