yourself in the scenario of needing legal counsel. whose team would you want to have defending you, the all star team that robert mueller has assembled or the team that president trump has in the white house, lawyers who casually discuss the case in popular d.c. restaurants where they can be overheard by reporters. you look at how the two opposing teams are -- the level of seriousness with which they're conducting their investigation and then you contrast that with all of the leaks in the white house. nothing has leaked from the bob mueller investigation. and it's pretty striking in contrast to this white house. >> and in fact there's this article, i'm sure you've read it on "vanity fair," peter, which describes the white house as being increasingly on edge amid this widening russia probe. there's some aides discussing the prospect of impeachment. do you think these fears are more concerns about being dragged into the probe as individuals or about the concerns that the russia investigation is getting closer to the president? >> it's everything. i've been in two -- around two