a confiscate everything over -- >> the problem with the all miv minimum tax. >> 100%? >> not that it existed, but it kept grabbing lower and lower income americans? >> no. it's deliberately expanded when people want to do it. you suggest it only affects the people that pay it. the largest lobby in washington, d.c., i'm in washington, d.c., i look out the window and see the life insurance company is lobbyists. who has killed and weakened every effort to get rid of the death tax? the life insurance lobby. why? because the kennedys insure around the death tax. if you buy hundreds of millions of dollars of life insurance, and you die, you get the $100 on the other side tax-free. who gets rich? life insurance companies. >> you won't argue about the lobbyist about to sink their teeth in this bim and go everywhere? we don't agree on a ton on taxes but agree on that. a lot of the nonsense in the tax code is because of lobbyists. that said -- >> no. but many, many people are