investigation. in a "washington post" article trump fumes over russian indictments. a senior republican in close contact with top staffers said, quote, the walls are closing in. everyone is freaking out. the president pushed back on that narrative, of course, telling the "new york times," i am not actually angry at anybody. let's bring in the round table. ashley parker. she has been reporting as a white house reporter for the "washington post." eugene robinson. a columnist and msnbc contributor and jonathan swann, national political reporter for axios. ashley, you are on top of the story. when you get into the white house, are they afraid of being caught up in this sort of perjury trap where you are asked questions that are detailed and you can deny them but you'll get caught and mouse trapped right away? are they afraid of being overheard saying something that sounds like obstruction by one of their work mates? what's the fear? >> sure. the concern is -- and this has been the case for a while -- that anytime russia comes up