evidence in a short amount of time. and then you have that come out and the white house saying this has nothing to do with us, nothing to do collusion. and bloom, comes the news there is indictment and has something to do with that conduct. so i'm not sure whether mueller wasn't planning to release that until a comment from the white house. i suspect he was all along actually because this is his first kind of i'm here, i'm working, we're being productive and you can expect we're going to continue to be productive. >> it's funny jennifer said the heft. because i've not talked to prosecutors in a the way sort of a craftsman might admire a small piece of furniture. we're talking about a lot of years on the table, and it's very narrow what the government has to prove. existence or nonexistence, he's not actually charged with tax evasion, which is much more complicated thing to prosecute