comparisons made over the past 24 hours especially to watergate. what parallels do you see between what we're witnessing now and what we all -- what you saw back in the '70s? >> first of all, the idea that manafort, trying to turn him, to cooperate against other people, that's how the whole watergate scandal became unravelled. it was because george john sir rica, a republican judge, smelled a rat and wound up giving each of those watergate burglars 28 years in prison. as a result, james mccord who was a former cia agent, came forward and said i'm not going to spend 25 years in jail for richard nixon, and he started naming names and fingering people who are on the committee to re-elect the president. this is exactly what robert mueller is doing with this ma a manafort indictment. in fact, this manafort indictment is so perfectly put together, it's done in a way that it can be proven strictly by documents. you don't need a witness.