i understand, it sounded a little hokey at the time. but my god, it was his way of saying, you know what, i've been a victim, too. my family has been a victim. and i think when you see the train pictures on the book of the white families saluting him and the families singing the battle hymn of the republic what leader today has the moral authority to bring both communities together saying maybe you don't hang out with each other but you can have the same goals as a country and a patriotic spirit about it? what i wanted to do writing this book before i knew i was writing it to say trump isn't the american reality, there is a spirit to this country about hope and getting together and empathy for people in trouble. that survive it is '60s. he is the spirit of it, bobby. >> bobby kennedy, a raging spirit with chris matthews' new book. historic day today. i feel like history kind of hits you hard on a day like today. today's the anniversary of the day that cap wineberger was indicted. the house judiciary committee