those today. he could have released them next week or two weeks from now. he did it today and 90 minutes after when we were all digesting the gates and manafort charges and when people from the white house were already starting to say and trump allies, this isn't about the campaign. this isn't about collusion. and then, boom, the papadopoulos documents landed. and here was collusion. >> here was collusion and bob mueller saying you don't know what i know. and i know now from folks i've talked to that everyone is now sort of reracking their own tapes about their knowledge and their conversations about that done junior meeting. that seems to be emerging, ken, as a central incident around which people may have perjured themselves. >> also now we know that the campaign was already on notice that the russians were peddling dirt. when don junior -- it's even the same word, dirt. that word comes up now twice in the context of the papadopoulos conversations and the trump