the population. you have over 2,000 people on medicaid. do you believe that these folks can be treated without funding? if you take the money away how will those people be treated? >> we're not taking the money away. >> you voted for a budget that cuts it. >> it's a very large budget and what the president did today would allow transferring more money. we have a $20 trillion debt in america. we have to tighten our belts. it's unfortunate, but there are other avenues to fight drug abuse. i'm a big behavior in faith-based initiatives to help combat drug abuse. >> quickly, i know we're out of time but doesn't the budget that was just passed increase the debt? my understanding is the debt will go up because of this budget. >> this budget will lead to tax reform. >> how does that help the deficit? that increases the deficit. if you --