with the delve, you get a lot of the things crow like, things that are pretty good. but the price is always much, much greater than you anticipate in the beginning. >> by the way, this is why we urge folks to read charlie's new book. jonathan, i asked this question in our first segment. does mccain, corker and flake a movement make? >> certainly the start of one or even partially the escalation of one in terms of those people getting moved out, the scalps that bannon claims. and yet on the other side there's a risk for trump and for bannon, which is that if you knock out enough of these guys and they're laying ducks between now and next year emphasis mid-terms they may start voting against the trump agenda freely. and they really can't afford to have guys peeling off. >> our great thanks to two guests who we will have on again and again. we'll keep talking about this and covering it as it goes by. charlie sykes, jonathan allen,