the connection between the trump campaign and cambridge was at that moment. >> nick, i feel like i'm losing my mind a little bit as i watch all of this happen. i feel that often, but easy to have -- >> partly to have because of the fact pattern russia is so sprawling. there's charactering, and there's paul manafort and all of these people. that what i think they have sort of successfully been lost is what was the crime and the heart of it. >> the crime at the heart of it was trying to help trump get elected, exactly what ron goldstone said in the june 3rd e-mail, that's what they were doing. i mean, look at that will dossier. everything in there, i mean most of it has been corroborated, what hasn't been -- >> that's not true. i would not say most has been corroborated. >> it all rings true. if you're looking at it from the standpoint of what i usually do when i send out investigators, i'm trying to find -- >> is that something you do? >> all the time in litigations that i handle. so what you want to do is you want to look the the raw data