this argument does not work with voters, the argument that you've got to nominate someone who can win. we don't know who's going to win ahead of time. crist made it against rubio, et cetera. secondly, voters would like to vote for someone they believe in or has policies that will help them. this only being foit by the bannon side and they are hunkered down in the feetal position. you have to fight ban on issues, do you want protectionist republicans or those who accept the 21st century or want to roll everything back 60 or 70 years or believes in america's role in the world or not. they have to make a substantive case and not say it's too risky. if moore wins, what was sacrificed? >> they look at the races lost where they nominated -- but to your point, it doesn't change. >> there does seem to be a difference between somebody who