>> all right, joe. >> all right, fellows. stay out of trouble. don't [ bleep ] like me. >> on one of our follow-ups with joe, we were talking about being set free, and he told me the last time he was out he had gone to walmart, and he had become so overwhelmed by everything he saw around him. >> i went in there with my mother and my sister, and i was like really nervous, and i go, i got to go back outside. i wasn't used to the people, the colors, the reds, the purples, the pinks and the greens and all the colors and hearing the kids cry in aisle four, you know, and all the noise. and i started looking at everything and the cars going by and the traffic and the airplanes and life goes on without me, and it goes on. it doesn't stop for joe, you know. it goes, you know? >> i think everything that he did to survive in prison wasn't going to work in the outside world, and he knew that. he had no education, no job