as a retired marine general who is also a gold star father, he's the perfect person to speak on this. he did err in his evaluation of wilson. i think if the white house took a step back. if they admitted that in their attack on representative, that they erred in this area, that would lend decent credibility. but they see that general kelly has gotten them out of a tight spot. i think the tendency here from the white house is not to want to give an inch at all. >> but doesn't that just keep the furor going? >> absolutely. this morning with the tweet you were talking about just a second ago, this is just -- this is too much on the day that that family is grieving. we are going back and forth with this petty debating on both sides. a few days ago, representative wilson was bragging to local press that this controversy had made her a rock star. those are her words. and they have no place in this