>> yeah, that's right. look, it's unfortunate that the president watches fox, mainlines "fox and friends" and their conspiracy theories go into his ears and out on his twitter feeds. you expect more from chuck grassley, who in his past life has been an aggressive overseer of democratic and republican administrations. both he and devin nunes have been aggressively trying to undermine the fbi investigation, undermine the dossier. instead of asking the fundame fundamental question, are the allegations in this dossier true? they've repeatedly tried to go after the fbi and undermine the work they're doing. it's not really an appropriate exercise of congressional oversight. >> and there's a sort of counter -- it extends, if people are not watching conservative media, there are programs that are leading with stories about whether it's fusion or the clintons in russia. there's this very invested effort to build a counter story. >> it's very concerted. and i would also point out that this started really with devin