money. the issues of money laundering have been mentioned. there are lots of things he's gone back with these people many years that have nothing to do with donald trump. so we don't know what that tells us and it may be just as we were saying about reince priebus what they won't paul manafort not for himself but to find out what, if anything, he knows about the campaign last year. >> and, mika, because we're all in the dark using flashlights without knowing what's going on behind the scenes, do you think there's been any surprise among members of the mueller team at just how much financial crimes have become a percentage of this investigation? >> i think they knew that this was going to be a big percentage of this. mueller was pulling some of the best financial prosecutors from across the government. they reached out to the irs criminal investigation team, financial crimes, financial