we have no idea as of now why dara poska is channeling $30 million through a series of fairly intricate transactions to get them into the pockets of shielded corporations that are tied to paul manafort, right. >> no. we don't. and that is exact lip what bob mueller wants to know. he wants to know why was this money transferred and why was paul manafort trying to use his position on the campaign as leverage in order to get this money back to dare poska and work a deal out where they could negotiate debt cancelation or forgiveness and former counter intelligence said that is a huge red flag because debt cancelation is a lot harder to track than payments themselves. so this is going to add a whole new layer to the investigation. >> natasha bertrand, thank you. to help put this these breaking news stories in the big picture, former watergate