fight with you about the media because i'm guessing you came on this network because you at least were generous to share your insights. but i want you to respond to steve bannon possibly warning the president. he's not the only one. there's plenty of reports out there. >> i'm a subskriesh of vanity fair. i read it cover to cover. all i can say is i know their point of view well. steve bannon has never raised that with me. you're right he's a close ally of cpac. i have heard steve talk about with his typical gusto and passion that this president is taking on so many powerful forces that, you know, the reverberation is going to be substantial. so i can see him talking in these apocalyptic terms that when you do this, it can result in some pretty bad political options. but i don't think -- i have never heard him say that's a viable option. i do think, look, he's at logger