take us off the paths of war? i think at the end of the day we are headed inescapeably, without a peep out of congress toward using a military option to solve a genuine threat to the american people, which i think is -- is going to be a sad outcome. >> wow. that's breathtaking. sue, last word. how much western media does kim jong-un consume, do we think? >> a lot. i'm sure he's watching this right now. they're pouring over every word that's coming out of trump administration and coming out of the united states. >> very chilling stuff. two of the very best in the business whose opinions we'll continue to count on. sue my taer, general barry mccaffrey. thank you both. another break for us. more when we come right back.