to get it done. they think the changes or the people that i talk to, he's only been in office six months and eight months. you got to give him time. he's giving too much opposition in democrats and he's going to get it done. when you talk about those three things, steve, drama and chaos and suspense. those are the three things he wants and in a reality show. can you get legislation done in that. >> and to be clear, i agree with the framing on that. that's how i look at the presidency, too. i don't think when we meet with the presidency, this is not a presidency that's not moved that way. >> how much is he holding? >> i think part of his appeal to his basis not the concrete legislative achievement. it is not that i got tax reform done necessary. it is all of the posturing and