us back from bringing a proposal like that. >> in order to illustrate to the american people -- >> as a show vote? >> yes. >> that is show boat politics. we need to spend time on legislation we actually intend to pass. >> lots of forums are being held. we have had long conversations -- >> and that the mortgage interest deduction. >> we'll come to that a little bit later. are you willing to do those sorts of town halls? >> well, i just did one with jake tapper on another network. i do employee town halls, telephone town halls. what we have not wanted to do is have constituents get shouted out by protesters that are bussed in. that is typically what the tactic has been lately. >> if i set one up with lester holt, can we count on it, speaker? >> we'll see. we'll see. >> let me turn to big tech and then go to taxes. i had kevin mccarthy last week.