opulent spending. but richard, when it comes to the oversight or the ethics involved for members of this white house, because now it has turned to ryan zinke or steve mnuchin and kellyanne conway who flew on private jets and sought to use them, is this something an issue for the white house moving forward, that they are going to be people not only that need the turn around in their habits but going to get busted and kicked out like price for doing this. >> well, i don't see any efforts in this white house at all. the ethics lawyer wrote the government ethics and said they don't apply to the white house staff after kellyanne conway got in trouble. and what i see here is that the tone is set at the very top that they are going to spend taxpayer money however they feel. and that the president wants to go down to mara laga for a weekend, it will cost us hundreds of thousand of dollars