inevitable. >> and kristen welker, reminding folks, recall the cabinet process, cabinet vetting process, certain members the president focused on and certain ones vice president pence was focused on. tom price was considered sort of in the pence wing of that. a good point there. i don't think the president was personally as invested in him as, say, a steve mnuchin or perhaps a ryan zinke. and tonight's panel, host of, analyst, host of hugh hewitt on saturdays and campaign policy director for obama and clinton and carolyn start with you. the one thing that i am mildly surprised about the president sort of accepting this resignation is that he is also one of those, you don't give an inch. >> uh-huh. you don't. >> when you feed the beast here, the washington beast. the sacrificial lamb of tom price. is it blood in the water?