but, you know, this is unfortunate because it's the national ant anthem and they neo respect the military. look, at every professional sports game, you do see a tribute paid to service members. this is not about disrespecting the country or disrespecting members of the military. and in fact, earlier in this hour, morgan radford interviewed a man who said just this. this is not about that at all. this is about people who don't have a voice and the nfl standing up for those people. i think that is a really important distinction and it is not intellectually honest for people like mark short to just say, oh, wait a minute, they shouldn't be disrespecting the country or the national anthem. in fact, they're being very patriotic. they clearly care about the country and they're taking this moment when everybody is paying attention to them for the national anthem saying we would rather -- we are proud of the country and we want this to be better. this is patriotic, what they're doing. not unpatriotic at all. >> joe, erin, and erin, i'm glad you gave me solid answers in the