trouble. "the new york times" reporting that no-knock search, when a lock is picked -- >> yeah. >> that took place and he was informed by mueller's prosecutors that he would -- that they plan to indict him. did you have any interactions with him during the campaign? >> i had some when he first came on board and when i was doing more traveling with the candidate at that time than i did later. i had interactions with paul and then interactions on the transition because he was involved in the early transition planning as well when he came in and replaced corey lewandowski. >> so let me ask you this. it's an open secret in washington that paul manafort took the kinds of clients that other firms wouldn't. they sometimes represented people not known as the good guys in foreign policy circles. the pro-russia side in ukraine and others. do you think that the folks who brought him into trump's orbit, i don't know who they are. do you know who brought -- >> not specifically, no. >> do you think they had any idea about how much baggage he