if there's going to be indictments, that reportedly he told manafort that he was going to be indicted. it may be a while for the house and senate. they're focused on national security, and that's very important. mueller is focused on national security and criminal acts so criminal takes precedence. >> the national security aspects obviously dominate a lot of our attention and our focus, what was russia doing, were they meddling in our election, but this is also a criminal investigation. >> when bob mueller took over the investigation, i sort of thought at the end of the day is do what ken starr did in the clinton investigation, is to issue a large report to congress, and say over to you, congress, to determine whether violations of national security occurred and if anyone needs to be held accountable politically.