>> do people, do college kids in particular, get that? when you look at the polling here, 55% of former members of fraternities and sororities were asked, have you experienced hazing? 55% said yes, more than half, a significant number. 42% said no. it is not just frats, right, it is athletic teams, other campus groups where this happens, too. how do you work to build awareness around this? is it moments like this? >> part of the education proc s process, because this bill not only requires reporting by the colleges but it also requires education of the students. what is hazing? what is appropriate activity versus not ahead of time, so people know not only if they experience it, what it is, but also where they can report it. >> okay. thank you very much, both of you, for being with us. for being on the "today" show plaza this morning, talking about this critical issue. we'll have you back once the bill starts to get going bax ec in d.c. we'll be back with today's big picture.