>> you lying to me. we have a problem with the heartless felon gang. they constantly always involved in extorting, threatening, manipulating. >> we met numerous victim of the heartless felon, a gang best known for stealing commissary items from other inmates and often those thefts were accompanied by violence. >> slapped me. [ bleep ]. >> one guy steal it divide it up in three, four different cells. like a lion out hunting, one lion might not eat today but take part in the hunt or eat what's left over. this is how they are. >> but the heartless felons say stealing is against their rules. >> one thing the heartless felons, don't steal. we take, we take it while they're there. we don't steal something, we don't do. >> chatman, who is awaiting trial for aggravated murder, to which he pled not guilty, clarified the heartless felons don't steal, they take. >> stealing is going behind somebody back and taking it. taking is going in their face, telling this mine if you want to