us when d.c. he's here. and campaign manager for president obama's 2012 campaign and has a lot of scar tissue over the issue of obamacare. and stephanie, start with you, because i saw you smirk a little when i asked, started with, is this the time to have a medicare for all debate when the party was literally -- was united for an eight-month period to try to save obamacare? >> a couple things on that. it doesn't mean the party is not still united, to save obamacare, or to push for firsts to obamacare. as senator merkley laid out, there's nothing wrong with a vision. i also would say that senator merkley is a great spokesperson on this, much better than we saw earlier, with the unveiling, and you know, let's also understand that we are in the democratic party debating about how to cover more people. with health care. and provide more coverage on health care, and to reduce